MiLB Details

You can only call a player up if he has been called up in real life, you can also only send a player down if he has also been sent down to the minors. You do not have to call a player up that has been called up in real life though.

Also, if a player is on the DL and you had called him up, you can not send him down because he is on the MLB DL.

You can not roster more then 12 MiLB players once the 2009 season begins. You may up until opening day though, but you will need to have one of them called up, drop them, or trade them away to make the proper lineup specifications.

Here's a question: Are we going to be able to add/drop minor leaguers mid-season like in EBHD? I'm not suggesting we have a $$ amount but I think it definitely makes it more competitive. For example, I picked up Logan Morrison, Jhoulys Chacin, and Mike Stanton throughout the year, because I took the chance on them. If we didn't have season milb moves, they'd be subject to our off-season draft, which kind of takes most of the skill out of it.

smk1363 wrote:Here's a question: Are we going to be able to add/drop minor leaguers mid-season like in EBHD? I'm not suggesting we have a $$ amount but I think it definitely makes it more competitive. For example, I picked up Logan Morrison, Jhoulys Chacin, and Mike Stanton throughout the year, because I took the chance on them. If we didn't have season milb moves, they'd be subject to our off-season draft, which kind of takes most of the skill out of it.

I would be in favor of this.

HighLanderZ wrote:

smk1363 wrote:Here's a question: Are we going to be able to add/drop minor leaguers mid-season like in EBHD? I'm not suggesting we have a $$ amount but I think it definitely makes it more competitive. For example, I picked up Logan Morrison, Jhoulys Chacin, and Mike Stanton throughout the year, because I took the chance on them. If we didn't have season milb moves, they'd be subject to our off-season draft, which kind of takes most of the skill out of it.

I would be in favor of this.

I'm ok with a mid-season waiver, but with specific conditions - we do it 1 time, and only players that are active milb players, and no 2009 MLB draftees are eligible - otherwise the next year's draft would be worthless.

Back to family time!

RotoRaysfan wrote:

HighLanderZ wrote:

smk1363 wrote:Here's a question: Are we going to be able to add/drop minor leaguers mid-season like in EBHD? I'm not suggesting we have a $$ amount but I think it definitely makes it more competitive. For example, I picked up Logan Morrison, Jhoulys Chacin, and Mike Stanton throughout the year, because I took the chance on them. If we didn't have season milb moves, they'd be subject to our off-season draft, which kind of takes most of the skill out of it.

I would be in favor of this.

I'm ok with a mid-season waiver, but with specific conditions - we do it 1 time, and only players that are active milb players, and no 2009 MLB draftees are eligible - otherwise the next year's draft would be worthless.

Back to family time!

Well yeah, in EBHD people were able to bid on 2008 draftees at the time of the draft. I think people should be rewarded for knowing about a prospect before they break out, otherwise, it basically evens it out too much so there isn't as much skill. The way I look at it, ANYONE can look at BA's top prospects lists and draft, but jumping on board someone before they break out takes a little more personal knowledge. I would be extremely disappointed if we couldn't add MiLB players throughout the season. I guess we COULD do something along the lines of not being able to pick up 2009 draftees and having them be subject to the next draft, but everyone else should be fair game.

smk1363 wrote:

RotoRaysfan wrote:

HighLanderZ wrote:

smk1363 wrote:Here's a question: Are we going to be able to add/drop minor leaguers mid-season like in EBHD? I'm not suggesting we have a $$ amount but I think it definitely makes it more competitive. For example, I picked up Logan Morrison, Jhoulys Chacin, and Mike Stanton throughout the year, because I took the chance on them. If we didn't have season milb moves, they'd be subject to our off-season draft, which kind of takes most of the skill out of it.

I would be in favor of this.

I'm ok with a mid-season waiver, but with specific conditions - we do it 1 time, and only players that are active milb players, and no 2009 MLB draftees are eligible - otherwise the next year's draft would be worthless.

Back to family time!

Well yeah, in EBHD people were able to bid on 2008 draftees at the time of the draft. I think people should be rewarded for knowing about a prospect before they break out, otherwise, it basically evens it out too much so there isn't as much skill. The way I look at it, ANYONE can look at BA's top prospects lists and draft, but jumping on board someone before they break out takes a little more personal knowledge. I would be extremely disappointed if we couldn't add MiLB players throughout the season. I guess we COULD do something along the lines of not being able to pick up 2009 draftees and having them be subject to the next draft, but everyone else should be fair game.

Your point is taken about skill being rewarded, but in the interests of keeping the league somewhat balanced, I would strongly vote against any inclusion of current-year draftees (i.e. 2009 MLB draftees are off limits). Sure, it means that owners with less knowledge catch up, but let's face it, a league where only the MILB sharks load up, well I could easily see a league that starts to select itself out of only the most hardcore MILB-centric ownership. For the long-term health of the league, having some balance (and yes, it means that it does level the playing field) is good.

And FWIW, I'm obviously one of the MILB nuts, I've just been in leagues that weed out all but the most hardcore, which is fine if that's the goal - but I think it's hard to sustain in a 20-team format. I'd be one of the first guys picking the best players - last year I would have cleared both Beckhams & Smoak right away and swung it so if I could only get 1, I'd trade assets to get the other 2 from other owners interested in the here & now in 2008. The end result would be a terribly weak 2009 draft, and ironically the mid-season draft would be better, since a new draft class would come in. I just don't think the start-of-year draft should be weaker than the mid-year one would be, which would definitely be the case if we included current year draftees.

(Plus, we do have 20 owners, so maybe we'll find out >10 don't want a midseason draft - but as one who would be in favor, I'd strongly argue against current year MLB draftees for the reasons above, if we're discussing it now).

I agree with that...I said I'd be fine leaving the draftees off limits until the draft. My point was, pretend we started this league last year and Mike Stanton went undrafted. I personally think that it would suck to be forced to wait until a "draft" to get him on your squad. I think that MLB draftees of the year SHOULD be off limits though. My point is about current MiLB players who simply went undrafted in our league

smk1363 wrote:I agree with that...I said I'd be fine leaving the draftees off limits until the draft. My point was, pretend we started this league last year and Mike Stanton went undrafted. I personally think that it would suck to be forced to wait until a "draft" to get him on your squad. I think that MLB draftees of the year SHOULD be off limits though. My point is about current MiLB players who simply went undrafted in our league

Yep, agreed there...although ideally it would be nice if we had a large majority, but I see no problem with that.

P.S. I think the off-limits extends to all 2009 signees - e.g. Michael Inoa goes undrafted in our MILB in 2008, he doesn't get drafted mid-season in 2008 either.

agreed

RotoRaysfan wrote:

smk1363 wrote:I agree with that...I said I'd be fine leaving the draftees off limits until the draft. My point was, pretend we started this league last year and Mike Stanton went undrafted. I personally think that it would suck to be forced to wait until a "draft" to get him on your squad. I think that MLB draftees of the year SHOULD be off limits though. My point is about current MiLB players who simply went undrafted in our league

Yep, agreed there...although ideally it would be nice if we had a large majority, but I see no problem with that.

P.S. I think the off-limits extends to all 2009 signees - e.g. Michael Inoa goes undrafted in our MILB in 2008, he doesn't get drafted mid-season in 2008 either.

*writes down name to pick at back end*

JK

I was there to help deliver that man child when he was born.

So I'm guessing all instructional and Short season guys that go undrafted would fall into the Inoa category (Only eligible for 2009 draft) or just signees from 2008?

This is all fine and cool with me, just want to run it by Boz and PF first. If we do add/drop them, no draftees of that year will be eligible to be picked up like previously stated.

No problems here Ray, just wanted to clear everything up before the year gets going.